tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-283938885302784821.post1617369222051355080..comments2024-03-28T00:42:25.420-07:00Comments on Grognardling: Should Players Pay for D&D?Christopherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16988517412357391012noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-283938885302784821.post-1563375144932573052012-04-13T10:30:46.308-07:002012-04-13T10:30:46.308-07:00I remember way back when I first heard of AD&D...I remember way back when I first heard of AD&D. The players have their own book? How quaint! The games I played didn't have those. <br /><br />The GM bought the game he wanted to play, and then we games the living daylights out of that game, then someone else wanted to GM and if he had the money and was enthusiastic about it, he bought his own copy (or borrowed from the first guy).<br /><br />I have almost always bought the games I was interested in, on the other hand I did often end up the GM. Wonder why? I did end up with one hell of a collection that way... (roughly 1000 volumes)AndreasDavourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17170806742393291962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-283938885302784821.post-7514634918518693442012-04-12T21:53:23.866-07:002012-04-12T21:53:23.866-07:00I make my players buy me beer. I'm pretty sure...I make my players buy me beer. I'm pretty sure that the cost of my rulebooks has been offset by now.TheJollyLlama875https://www.blogger.com/profile/08870737754643067461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-283938885302784821.post-21751004122481501192012-04-12T17:33:22.861-07:002012-04-12T17:33:22.861-07:00I [the referee] don't even bring books to the ...I [the referee] don't even bring books to the game anymore, just my dice and notebook. In our group one person hosts, another referees, and the rest by the snacks.<br /><br />[If you insist on running a game where you need the books, that's your own, personal thing.]Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05494391031541363595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-283938885302784821.post-55436931640023365952012-04-12T16:38:40.201-07:002012-04-12T16:38:40.201-07:00Since I am currently running a couple games I thin...Since I am currently running a couple games I think its a fabulous idea that players should pay me. <br /><br />But the group I grew up with, and when we just barely teens, we plotted together what games to buy. You get the GM guide, I'll get the players handbook, you get Keep on the Borderlands and I'll get Tomb of Horrors. So we tried to cover all the bases with our limited income. Eventually when we got older we were able to buy our own core books. <br /><br />And we take turns GMing. So when I am done with the game I'm running one of the other players will pick up the reins. Plus, we have all been gaming long enough to understand how much work it is for the GM. And sometimes, if as players we can help out with the work load we do.<br /><br />We all get our own snacks now, but back in the day it was everyone pitched in and got a pizza and a couple 2-liters. While I enjoyed the days of sharing books and scrounging through the couch cushion for change for a pizza, I am glad I can buy my own pie now.Gothridge Manorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11371740532802642972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-283938885302784821.post-53447392811392018252012-04-12T14:56:21.111-07:002012-04-12T14:56:21.111-07:00I've never had a problem. Players seem to be i...I've never had a problem. Players seem to be interested in buying dice and books on their own. I print handouts for everyone, especially for character generation. I'm also, always, the GM and I like to buy games and read them, even if I never ever will play them. So it's no loss to me. I haven't bought dice in 10 years until last fall when I bought the funny dice for DCC RPG. Most of the players in my DCC Campaign have bought their own dice and have the Core book on order.Reverend Dakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15589927717583694031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-283938885302784821.post-33503099983791590842012-04-12T14:28:01.907-07:002012-04-12T14:28:01.907-07:00I'm in the camp that players only need to brin...I'm in the camp that players only need to bring; dice, pen & paper and a miniature that represents their character (if possible). GM takes care of the rest.Castelainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00786237346086013854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-283938885302784821.post-4323692134258863992012-04-12T14:14:02.357-07:002012-04-12T14:14:02.357-07:00I kind of like the style of game where the referee...I kind of like the style of game where the referee provides everything, as that seems to route around the problem of characters being more about optimization than about character. Since I started in 2E, there have almost always been splatbooks galore available for games that I have participated in (hell, I remember loving The Complete Wizard's Handbook, The Complete Book of Elves, and others). In my current game, I think most of the players have some rulebooks, and a few have many more than I do. As a player, I would probably buy the core rules to any game I was playing that lasts more than a few sessions.<br /><br />When I recently ran a Moldvay one-shot, I provided printouts of the section of the basic rulebook that was required for character generation, and that worked really well. None of the players had copies of the rules or had ever read them before. In fact, most of them still call that "the 1E game," because clearly all old school games most be First Edition. :-P<br /><br />There is definitely an asymmetry of prep work unless you rotate referee duties, but since most referees enjoy it (time permitting), I don't think that is a bad thing.Necropraxishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716340801054739658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-283938885302784821.post-44419504493199777962012-04-12T13:48:06.657-07:002012-04-12T13:48:06.657-07:00At the very least, a player should shell out for d...At the very least, a player should shell out for dice and a pencil with a good eraser.<br /><br />Next in line would be a players handbook for whatever system is being played, if there is one available. It's not required, but it's nice to have.<br /><br />And, of course, if the GM is covering all other costs, then the players should be covering the GM's portion of food & drink. Period.<br /><br />Of course, I wonder how many people could make a living out of being a freelance DM. Wouldn't you love to get paid to run games for people?Matthew Schmeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11348372645986806502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-283938885302784821.post-83292763972630856102012-04-12T13:13:21.474-07:002012-04-12T13:13:21.474-07:00My players are under no obligation to even know th...My players are under no obligation to even know the rules, much less own the rulebook. :)<br /><br />I'm almost always Gming, and own copies of anything I'm going to run. On the rare occasions I do play a PC, if I like the game I'm going to buy the rulebook, assuming I don't already have it.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192212467523179768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-283938885302784821.post-27466648613114749392012-04-12T12:22:50.783-07:002012-04-12T12:22:50.783-07:00In our group, each of us purchases the core books ...In our group, each of us purchases the core books and/or supplements as we desire. Each of us who DMs foots the bill for any published modules, etc. that we want to utilize. <br />I am the propmaster and provide nearly all of the miniatures, whether or not I am the current DM. <br />Those who are not DMing a session rotate providing meals and snacks.<br />One of our group actually went and built with his own money and own labor a game-room in which we meet and play.<br />We've all kicked in for the various maps, projectors, and other accessories at times. <br />After 12 years it seems to be working; no one person is responsible for ALL the costs, and no one has taken a free ride; some of us pay as we can and some of us cover those who can't at the moment.Boric Glanduumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11657943639334882754noreply@blogger.com